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		<title>By: And The Winner Is&#8230; &#8212; &#8212; Magma Poetry</title>
		<link>http://magmapoetry.com/which-poem-would-you-ban-from-the-school-syllabus/comment-page-1/#comment-4856</link>
		<dc:creator>And The Winner Is&#8230; &#8212; &#8212; Magma Poetry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] our &#8216;banned poems&#8217; competition, that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Mackenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Mackenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all your entries, folks. You have given us, as judges, a very difficult job, although also a highly enjoyable one! It&#039;s hard to choose... but we will...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all your entries, folks. You have given us, as judges, a very difficult job, although also a highly enjoyable one! It&#8217;s hard to choose&#8230; but we will&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tanja Cilia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanja Cilia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I want for Christmas.... is a book with all the afore-mentioned poems.
I have even blogged about this contest, for good measure:
http://www.timesofmalta.com/blogs/view/20091120/tanja-cilia/censor-or-censure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I want for Christmas&#8230;. is a book with all the afore-mentioned poems.<br />
I have even blogged about this contest, for good measure:<br />
<a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/blogs/view/20091120/tanja-cilia/censor-or-censure" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesofmalta.com/blogs/view/20091120/tanja-cilia/censor-or-censure</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hazel Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hazel Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear John

As a fellow AQA board member, you will be shocked to discover that my teenage son, without any prompt or encouragement, quoted a few lines from a poem in the new AQA anthology.  I was so shocked at this display of free will and literary pleasure, that I immediately ordered a copy of the anthology and read the poem for myself.

I discovered several major failings:

Firstly the problem poem doesn’t have a title, how did this manage to slip through?  I have written to the software providers for a copy of the relevant checks.

Secondly, the poet, a Simon Armitage, looks nothing like a poet.  In fact he looks like someone teenagers could relate to – is there an agreed protocol for photos provided?  

Finally, the actual poem is written about his ‘Mother’.  It tells how she helps her son measure rooms in an empty house and yet there is no mention of the father.  This shows signs of the oedipus complex and I am concerned it will subconsciously encourage young men to kill their fathers leaving only their mother to help with the DIY.  This would be a disaster as the poem clearly does not give proper advice on the use of tape measures:

“Mother, any distance greater than a single span/requires a second pair of hands.”

We know this data to be incorrect as all measures have a metal clip on the end.

This poem fails in the fundamental strategy to “provide pupils with poems which they do not understand and fill them with dread ensuring they do not read poetry after leaving school except in proper situations such as weddings, funerals and Burns nights.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear John</p>
<p>As a fellow AQA board member, you will be shocked to discover that my teenage son, without any prompt or encouragement, quoted a few lines from a poem in the new AQA anthology.  I was so shocked at this display of free will and literary pleasure, that I immediately ordered a copy of the anthology and read the poem for myself.</p>
<p>I discovered several major failings:</p>
<p>Firstly the problem poem doesn’t have a title, how did this manage to slip through?  I have written to the software providers for a copy of the relevant checks.</p>
<p>Secondly, the poet, a Simon Armitage, looks nothing like a poet.  In fact he looks like someone teenagers could relate to – is there an agreed protocol for photos provided?  </p>
<p>Finally, the actual poem is written about his ‘Mother’.  It tells how she helps her son measure rooms in an empty house and yet there is no mention of the father.  This shows signs of the oedipus complex and I am concerned it will subconsciously encourage young men to kill their fathers leaving only their mother to help with the DIY.  This would be a disaster as the poem clearly does not give proper advice on the use of tape measures:</p>
<p>“Mother, any distance greater than a single span/requires a second pair of hands.”</p>
<p>We know this data to be incorrect as all measures have a metal clip on the end.</p>
<p>This poem fails in the fundamental strategy to “provide pupils with poems which they do not understand and fill them with dread ensuring they do not read poetry after leaving school except in proper situations such as weddings, funerals and Burns nights.”</p>
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		<title>By: Sally Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sally Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My blackball goes to the same poem as Danny Birchall (above): 

&quot;If&quot; by Ruddy Hard Kipling.    http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_if.htm

This poem is utterly sexist and totally unsuitable for education. There is not one single reference to the feminine viewpoint throughout. Apart from that, it encourages selfish acquisitiveness (Yours is the Earth and everything that&#039;s in it), and a scheming attitude to life, though you will notice it does not distinguish between success and cock-ups (If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster/
And treat those two impostors just the same).

But worst of all it contains a whole section encouraging out and out secret gambling (If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss). 

Moreover this so called poem was composed as an after dinner speech for some raucous all-male occasion, for which purpose it was first printed on a menu card. There it should have stayed, and no doubt would have stayed but for the chauvinist attitudes accepted at that time in history when it was written. No this certainly is not suitable for our children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My blackball goes to the same poem as Danny Birchall (above): </p>
<p>&#8220;If&#8221; by Ruddy Hard Kipling.    <a href="http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_if.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_if.htm</a></p>
<p>This poem is utterly sexist and totally unsuitable for education. There is not one single reference to the feminine viewpoint throughout. Apart from that, it encourages selfish acquisitiveness (Yours is the Earth and everything that&#8217;s in it), and a scheming attitude to life, though you will notice it does not distinguish between success and cock-ups (If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster/<br />
And treat those two impostors just the same).</p>
<p>But worst of all it contains a whole section encouraging out and out secret gambling (If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss). </p>
<p>Moreover this so called poem was composed as an after dinner speech for some raucous all-male occasion, for which purpose it was first printed on a menu card. There it should have stayed, and no doubt would have stayed but for the chauvinist attitudes accepted at that time in history when it was written. No this certainly is not suitable for our children.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate B Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate B Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir,
Re. At Lunch Time by Roger McGough
I must say I was surprised to find the above poem in a collection which is at present in our children’s school library. From a seemingly innocent beginning this poem deteriorates into an apology for coercive licentiousness and wanton promiscuity. What can our children think when they read:
and soon the bus was aquiver
with white, mothballed bodies doing naughty things
The poem suggests that, on the pretext - the world will end at lunchtime -  people would behave in a kind of mad, animalistic way. Surely if the world was about to end, most respectable people would hurry home to their loved ones, rather than taking part in unbridled fornication on a public bus. Further more this poem is unlikely to improve the behaviour of some school children on public transport
The “world ending” is a fabrication on the part of the poet, to seduce an innocent woman, hardly the kind of behaviour we would recommend to our young people.
There is also a totally unacceptable, albeit veiled, reference to homosexuality which I do believe is forbidden in our schools, and if it is not, it most certainly should be:
even the bus conductor
feeling left out
climbed into the cab
and struck up some sort of relationship with the driver
Note bus conductor not conductress, at best this is likely to cause sniggering and subsequent embarrassment for the teachers and at worst, lead to some kind of disastrous experimentation.
I am aware that this poem is intended to be humorous but I am afraid it is simply distasteful and wholly unsuitable for a school library. This book should be burned – I mean banned.
Yours faithfully,
A Concerned Citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir,<br />
Re. At Lunch Time by Roger McGough<br />
I must say I was surprised to find the above poem in a collection which is at present in our children’s school library. From a seemingly innocent beginning this poem deteriorates into an apology for coercive licentiousness and wanton promiscuity. What can our children think when they read:<br />
and soon the bus was aquiver<br />
with white, mothballed bodies doing naughty things<br />
The poem suggests that, on the pretext &#8211; the world will end at lunchtime &#8211;  people would behave in a kind of mad, animalistic way. Surely if the world was about to end, most respectable people would hurry home to their loved ones, rather than taking part in unbridled fornication on a public bus. Further more this poem is unlikely to improve the behaviour of some school children on public transport<br />
The “world ending” is a fabrication on the part of the poet, to seduce an innocent woman, hardly the kind of behaviour we would recommend to our young people.<br />
There is also a totally unacceptable, albeit veiled, reference to homosexuality which I do believe is forbidden in our schools, and if it is not, it most certainly should be:<br />
even the bus conductor<br />
feeling left out<br />
climbed into the cab<br />
and struck up some sort of relationship with the driver<br />
Note bus conductor not conductress, at best this is likely to cause sniggering and subsequent embarrassment for the teachers and at worst, lead to some kind of disastrous experimentation.<br />
I am aware that this poem is intended to be humorous but I am afraid it is simply distasteful and wholly unsuitable for a school library. This book should be burned – I mean banned.<br />
Yours faithfully,<br />
A Concerned Citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacqueline Saphra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacqueline Saphra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t laughed so much for ages. Thank-you, all of you, for your fabulous contributions. Keep &#039;em coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t laughed so much for ages. Thank-you, all of you, for your fabulous contributions. Keep &#8216;em coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Trish Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trish Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is with serious concern and a sense of urgency that I write to the AQA.  You must ban, with immediate effect Stevie Smith&#039;s poem &#039;Not Waving but Drowning&#039;.  Only AQA has the power to save the Prime Minister and his Government.  Her Majesty has called on him to dissolve parliament with immediate effect, as she has lost confidence in his ability to run the country.  This emergency has arisen after Her Majesty was stranded in the midst of a multiple pile up of ambulances, police cars and fire engines which had crashed into the life boats being lowered by helicopter in an attempt to rescue Her Majesty.  This disaster arose after thousands of school children dialled 999 on their mobile phones when they witnessed Her Majesty waving persistently.  Those who had studied this dangerous poem had misinterpreted this as a signal that she was drowning.  Such disasters must never be allowed to happen again.  AQA, your Prime Minister needs you to act now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is with serious concern and a sense of urgency that I write to the AQA.  You must ban, with immediate effect Stevie Smith&#8217;s poem &#8216;Not Waving but Drowning&#8217;.  Only AQA has the power to save the Prime Minister and his Government.  Her Majesty has called on him to dissolve parliament with immediate effect, as she has lost confidence in his ability to run the country.  This emergency has arisen after Her Majesty was stranded in the midst of a multiple pile up of ambulances, police cars and fire engines which had crashed into the life boats being lowered by helicopter in an attempt to rescue Her Majesty.  This disaster arose after thousands of school children dialled 999 on their mobile phones when they witnessed Her Majesty waving persistently.  Those who had studied this dangerous poem had misinterpreted this as a signal that she was drowning.  Such disasters must never be allowed to happen again.  AQA, your Prime Minister needs you to act now.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Handley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Handley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would ban “Song of Myself” from “Leaves of Grass” by Mr Walt Whitman.

First of all it is far too long to be a poem – and it doesn’t rhyme either, so I think Mr Whitman has a nerve to even call it poetry. Neither is it a song. Mr Whitman professes to be a writer and yet cannot even define the form he writes in accurately.

Bad as all that may be, it is even more serious that Mr Whitman encourages the sin of sloth - at numerous points throughout the text the writer is encouraged to “lean and loafe”, waste time “observing a spear of summer grass”, “loafe with me on the grass”, I could go on. Is Mr Whitman not aware that there is a recession on? How are we to prosper if we take Mr Whitman’s lead?

But that is not all. This grass that Mr Whitman would have us loafing about on. Whose grass is it? Mr Whitman does not say. I would suggest that Mr Whitman would be well advised to remind his readership that (if they must) they may loafe about on their own lawn, but are likely to be in breach of the law of trespass if they do so on any random piece of grass they come across.

Finally, and I think most damningly, Mr Whitman blatantly promotes obesity in the line “I am large, I contain multitudes”. 

So then: sloth, trespass and obesity – if that is not enough to see this irresponsible piece of “poetry” banned indefinitely then I do not know what is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would ban “Song of Myself” from “Leaves of Grass” by Mr Walt Whitman.</p>
<p>First of all it is far too long to be a poem – and it doesn’t rhyme either, so I think Mr Whitman has a nerve to even call it poetry. Neither is it a song. Mr Whitman professes to be a writer and yet cannot even define the form he writes in accurately.</p>
<p>Bad as all that may be, it is even more serious that Mr Whitman encourages the sin of sloth &#8211; at numerous points throughout the text the writer is encouraged to “lean and loafe”, waste time “observing a spear of summer grass”, “loafe with me on the grass”, I could go on. Is Mr Whitman not aware that there is a recession on? How are we to prosper if we take Mr Whitman’s lead?</p>
<p>But that is not all. This grass that Mr Whitman would have us loafing about on. Whose grass is it? Mr Whitman does not say. I would suggest that Mr Whitman would be well advised to remind his readership that (if they must) they may loafe about on their own lawn, but are likely to be in breach of the law of trespass if they do so on any random piece of grass they come across.</p>
<p>Finally, and I think most damningly, Mr Whitman blatantly promotes obesity in the line “I am large, I contain multitudes”. </p>
<p>So then: sloth, trespass and obesity – if that is not enough to see this irresponsible piece of “poetry” banned indefinitely then I do not know what is.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher James Heyworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher James Heyworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see someone from Railtrack has read this magma prompt and taken offensive action by painting over Sue Hubbard&#039;s frightfully dangerous poem Eurydice in the Waterloo Underpass leading to the BFI IMAX and the South Bank Arts&#039; hub - far more pernicious than anything in a textbook and forced to the attention of millions of women who may be encouraged into their fantasies of independence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see someone from Railtrack has read this magma prompt and taken offensive action by painting over Sue Hubbard&#8217;s frightfully dangerous poem Eurydice in the Waterloo Underpass leading to the BFI IMAX and the South Bank Arts&#8217; hub &#8211; far more pernicious than anything in a textbook and forced to the attention of millions of women who may be encouraged into their fantasies of independence.</p>
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